Thursday, March 18, 2010

#'s to call Fr & Sa: Constitution? We don't need no stinkin' votes!

Friday, 19 March & Saturday, 21 March are critical days for you to contact Congressmen & Senators, and for what it might be worth, ...the White House.
Please, also read the last 2 parts re "The Constitution, Article I: Section 7" and "UnConstitutionality Of NOT Recording The Votes" + 'humor' at the end.

1st part: What's afoot with Pelosi & o'nocchio? 2nd part: key Congressmen to fax and call. 3rd part: Constitution, Article I: Section 7. 4th part: House Voting Rules
PART 1 of 4 -

From: Traditional Values Coalition & AmeriPac.org & freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2474300/posts & rules.house.gov/Archives/voting_house.htm Sent: Th.18Mar10 Subject: Mad Yet?

http://www.capwiz.com/traditional/issues/alert/?alertid= <<< Send a crystal clear message to your Representatives today : It's free and it's fast.
<<< Click on the icon alert on the left or click on this link to quickly email Congress. <<<
<<< http://www.capwiz.com/traditional/issues/alert/?alertid=14829551&type=CO

Also, A list of >>> fax numbers <<< to Congress & State representatives is at: http://conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm
A quote from ConservativeUSA.org, "Most Representatives and Senators have ended the use of real email addresses and only use web forms.
Tip: Fax your letters instead of mailing them because Congressional mail security screening can delay postal letters by a few weeks, particularly during security alerts.

Keep calling your Senators and Representatives today, toll free numbers include:
1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121

More direct phone and direct facsimile information is linked at http://harrold.org/rfhextra/contact_the_us_government.html

Speaker Pelosi thinks that she can wave her magic wand and 'deem' a bill passed. What does this mean? She wants to have the U.S. House of Representatives pass a bill without voting on it!

Are you mad, yet?

Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are on the verge of socializing a major portion of our American economy. Under this scheme, you will be forced to purchase Obama's government-run health care.

  • This government takeover of health care will affect 100% of Americans – born and unborn – for generations to come. Obama and Pelosi have intentionally deceived the American people about taxpayer-funding of abortion. It is a fact that this bill authorizes an unprecedented, profound and alarming increase of tax money for other people's abortions – the largest increase of government-funded abortion since Roe v. Wade. Is this what you want?

  • To add insult to injury, Pelosi now wants to rewrite the Constitution and pass the bill without a vote! It's a travesty for the House of Representatives to cowardly shirk its responsibilities and pretend to vote on an unprecedented and unconstitutional proposal – the so-called "Slaughter Rule."

  • Even liberals are cautioning against the use of 'deeming' (or the Slaughter Rule) as a legislative strategy. George Washington Law School professor Alan Morrison, a litigator for the liberal group Public Citizen, is opposed to using the Slaughter Rule. He has stated: "If I were advising somebody [on the Slaughter Solution], I would say to them, 'Don't do it.' "What does 'deem' mean? In class, I always say it means 'let's pretend.' 'Deem' means it's not true."

If House Members are not going to do their job by voting directly on the bill, then we are left with no alternative: we will consider their vote on 'The Slaughter Rule' as a vote for the pro-abortion Senate Bill. We'll hold each and every one of them accountable.

Send a crystal clear message to your Representatives today: a vote for the "Slaughter Rule" will cost you your job in November. It's that simple.

This vote is much bigger than just health care. This is a vote to preserve the American way of life and our shared values. Do you want limited government and fiscal restraint? Or do you want socialized health care and taxpayer-funded abortions?

We need your help. Congressional phone lines are jammed. Easily email them here: Email your Member of Congress immediately and tell them to 'Vote No' on the Slaughter Rule.

Sincerely, Rev. Louis Sheldon and Andrea Lafferty

P.S. Be sure and share this alert with 10 other friends and family members.

The "vote" to socialize your health care and force you to pay for abortions could come at any moment. So, it's imperative that you contact your Representative right away and tell them to "Vote No" on the "Slaughter Rule."



PART 2 of 4 --

From: Alan M. Gottlieb, Chairman, AmeriPAC, www.AmeriPac.org This is outrageous and exactly what Americans do not want. FAX NOW AND OFTEN AND MAKE CALLS TO CONGRESS. We need your continued help more than ever as Socialized Health Care MUST STILL Be Stopped. TELL KEY CONGRESSMEN LISTED BELOW TO VOTE NO:

Fax, Call and Even Personally Visit Each in their Offices in Washington DC:

PLEASE CALL!DC OFFICELOCAL OFFICEStateDistrict
Harry Mitchell(202) 225-2190(480) 946-2411AZ5th District
Gabrielle Giffords(202) 225-2542(520) 881-3588AZ8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick(202) 225-2315(928) 226-6914AZ1st District
Jerry McNerney(202) 225-1947925-833-0643CA11th District
John Salazar202-225-4761970-245-7107CO3rd District
Jim Himes(202) 225-5541(866) 453-0028CT4th District
Alan Grayson(202) 225-2176(407) 841-1757FL8th District
Bill Foster(202) 225-2976630-406-1114IL14th District
Baron Hill202 225 5315812 288 3999IN9th District
Mark Schauer(202) 225-6276(517) 780-9075MI7th District
Gary Peters(202) 225-5802(248) 273-4227MI9th District
Dina Titus(202) 225-3252702-256-DINA (3462)NV3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter(202) 225-5456(603) 743-4813NH1st District
Tim Bishop(202) 225-3899(631) 696-6500NY1st District
John Hall(202) 225-5441(845) 225-3641 x49371NY19th District
Bill Owens(202) 225-4611(315) 782-3150NY23rd District
Mike Arcuri(202)225-3665(315)793-8146NY24th District
Dan Maffei(202) 225-3701(315) 423-5657NY25th District
Earl Pomeroy(202) 225-2611(701) 224-0355NDAt-Large District
Steven Driehaus(202) 225-2216(513) 684-2723OH1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy(202) 225-2015(614) 294-2196OH15th District
Zach Space(202) 225-6265(330) 364-4300OH18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper(202) 225-5406(814) 456-2038PA3rd District
Patrick Murphy(202) 225-4276(215) 826-1963PA8th District
Christopher Carney(202) 225-3731(570) 585-9988PA10th District
Paul Kanjorski(202) 225-6511(570) 825-2200PA11th District
John Spratt(202) 225-5501(803)327-1114SC5th District
Tom Perriello(202) 225-4711(276) 656-2291VA5th District
Alan Mollohan(202) 225-4172(304) 623-4422WVA1st District
Nick Rahall(202) 225-3452(304) 252-5000WVA3rd District
Steve Kagen(202) 225-5665(920) 437-1954WI8th District

We must make every effort to fax, call and even personally visit every key congressman in their offices in Washington DC.
Select Here SEND YOUR FAXES NOW!

Keep calling your Senators and Representatives today, toll free numbers include
1-877-851-6437 and 1-866-220-0044, or call toll 1-202-225-3121
AND REGISTER YOUR OUTRAGE at Arrogant ObamaCare TAX Increase!

CALL PRESIDENT OBAMA 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414 expressing your outrage at incompetence in crippling and obstructing the "bipartisan healthcare reform summit".

DO NOT BE SILENCED - MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!



PART 3 of 4 ---

AND REPOSTED FROM: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2474300/posts

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

Unonstitutionality Of NOT Recording The Votes On The Senate Healthcare Bill

self 3/18/2010 self
Source: Posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2474300/posts on Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:19:28 PM, post authored by Lmo56

United States Constitution: Article I: Section 7: Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto

" ... All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill ..."



Parliamentary Outreach Programsource: http://www.rules.house.gov/Archives/voting_house.htm

PART 4 of 4 ----

VOTING IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Methods of Voting. Under the rules of the House there are four regular methods of voting. These methods are outlined in House Rule XX and may be employed one after the other or in other combinations before a decision is reached. All four methods are available when operating in the House. When the House is operating in the Committee of the Whole, all of these methods of voting are available except for the yeas and nays.

  • Voice vote. A voice vote occurs when Members call out "Aye" or "No" when a question is first put by the Speaker. The Speaker will say, "As many as are in favor [of the question], say `Aye'." Then the Speaker will ask: "As many as are opposed, say `No'." Sometimes it is difficult for the Speaker to determine, based on the volume of each response, whether more lawmakers shouted "Aye" or "No." When considering a measure by unanimous consent, the Speaker may simply say "without objection the question is adopted" in lieu of a vote. However, any Member can object to that and force a vote.

  • Division vote. If the Speaker is uncertain about the outcome of a voice vote, or if a Member demands a division vote after a voice vote is taken, the Speaker may have "those in favor of the question...first rise from their seats to be counted, and then those opposed." Only those present and voting are announced in this rarely used method of voting.

  • Yea and Nay Vote. A vote in which members usually respond "aye" or "no" (despite the official title of the vote) on a question when their names are called in alphabetical order. Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution declares that "the Yeas and Nays of the Members...on any question" shall be obtained "at the Desire of one fifth of those present." Clause 6(a) of Rule XX provides that a yea and nay vote can be ordered "automatically" in the House when a Member objects to a pending vote on the ground that a quorum is not present. Yea and nay votes are usually taken by electronic device.

  • Record Vote. Clause 1(b) of Rule XX states that "if any Member... requests a recorded vote and that request is supported by at least one-fifth of a quorum, the vote shall be taken by electronic device." Record votes are taken in the same manner as the yeas and nays. The allotted time under the rules for a record vote is "not less than 15 minutes." It is the prerogative of the Speaker or presiding officer whether or not to allow additional time beyond the 15 minutes. The Chair also has the discretion in certain circumstances to reduce the voting time to not less than five minutes.

Less frequently used but still available methods are roll call votes, in which each Member's response is given orally as the Clerk calls the roll in alphabetical order, and teller votes, in which each Member fills out and signs a vote tally card and submits it to a designated clerk teller.

Required Method of Voting. Votes on certain issues are required by House rule to be taken by the yeas and nays. When the Speaker puts the question on final passage of general appropriation bills, budget resolutions or bills increasing Federal income tax rates, the vote must be taken by the yeas and nays. House rules and the Constitution also require that the question of passing a bill over the veto of the President must also be by the yeas and nays. The yeas and nays are usually taken by electronic device. A vote to close a conference committee meeting is also required to be a record vote.

Obtaining a Record Vote. Because the Constitution requires a quorum to be present to do business, whenever a quorum of the House (218 Members) is not present, a record vote can be obtained by a Member stating: "Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present and I make a point of order that a quorum is not present." An alternate means of obtaining a recorded vote in the House when a quorum is not present is to request the "yeas and nays" which requires that one-fifth of those Members present stand up to order the vote. This could be as many as 87 if all 435 Members are present or as few as 1, if less than 5 Members are on the Floor. This request can be done by stating: "Mr. Speaker, on that vote I demand the yeas and nays." The Speaker will respond by saying, "All those in favor of taking this vote by the yeas and nays will stand and remain standing while the Chair counts." Once the Chair determines that one-fifth of those present support the demand, the vote is ordered. To obtain a record vote when a quorum (218 Members or more) is present a Member would state: "Mr. Speaker, on that I demand a recorded vote." A "recorded vote" under these circumstances requires only one-fifth of a quorum in the House (44 Members) to stand and support the request. To obtain a recorded vote in the Committee of the Whole any Member may say, "I request a recorded vote," and, if 25 Members (including the Member who made the request) rise in support of the request to be counted by the chair, the record vote will occur by electronic device.

Postponement of Votes. Under clause 8(a)(1) of Rule XX, the Speaker has the discretion to postpone votes for up to two legislative days on a number of questions. Other questions which can be postponed by the Speaker include adoption of resolutions and ordering the previous question on: (1) the adoption of a resolution; (2) the question of final passage of a bill; (3) the adoption of a motion to suspend the rules; (4) the question of instructing conferees; (5) the question of agreeing to a conference report; and, (6) votes on amendments or motions to recommit Corrections Calendar bills. The special rule governing consideration of a bill in the Committee of the Whole often provides that the Chair may postpone votes on amendments.

Clustering of Votes. Under clause 9 of rule XX, the Speaker may reduce to no less than five minutes the voting time for electronic voting on any question after a record vote on: a motion for the previous question, an amendment reported from the Committee of the Whole, and a motion to recommit a bill, resolution or conference report, or the question of passage or adoption of a bill, resolution, or conference report. Under clause 6 of Rule XVIII, the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole has the authority to postpone votes during consideration of a bill, and to reduce voting time to 5 minutes on a postponed question if the vote follows a 15 minute vote.



tragedy: (view video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6ry465gdc , 7m15s)

"What this bill does is we finally take that step. As our leader said earlier, we take that step from healthcare as a privilege to healthcare as an inalienable right ...," Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) 23Dec09 (video, 37s).

humor:

Constitution? What Constitution?

"We don't need no stinkin' votes!" is a 'takeoff' from Alfonso Bedoya's famous line in the movie "Treasure of Sierra Madre."

speaker gif (listen, 89kb)
"Treasure of Sierra Madre"
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...not even yourself We're from the government and are here to help you. ...not even yourself
speaker gif (listen, 89kb)
Voice of: Alfonso Bedoya
(View: 10 pitch font)

"It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings."

From Lyrics of Frank Zappa's "Mothers of Invention" : "It Can't Happen Here..."

Dr. Strange Love Speaks (Peter Sellers)
A Photo of Dr. Strangelove.A Speaker GIF Image.
Sir Alec Guiness Speaks as A.Hitler
(96KB & 80KB) (hmm.wav)

A Speaker GIF Image. Things That Make You Go...hmmmmm? (28KB)

"Yankee Doodle" : Author, Dr. Richard Shuckburg,
British Army, c.1750
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Srcs: History & Lyrics & Founding Quotes

and, o'bamacide's no humor:

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