2nd Amendment - [sdrra] FULL ALERT FEDERAL - Healthcare Bill Could Ban Guns

Those in Washington and Sacramento _{(for us poor souls in California)} that purport to represent us ...they are completely 'out in left field.'

Please, if you don't know how to call, fax, or write to your federal or state representatives, visit my web page at:

http://harrold.org/rfhextra/contact_the_us_government.html

There, with a few clicks, you'll soon have the telephone, fax and snail mail addresses for the president, your state and federal senators, and your state and federal representatives.

TAKE A FEW MINUTES:  copy their fax numbers, create a simple fax page, and fax your opinions, copy their phone numbers and make a call and voice your positions and tell your "legislators" how you want them to vote!   You'll probably only speak with a 'staffer' but be courteous regardless of how indifferent they may treat you.  The Democrat staffers usually will be non-committal and simply say that they can't tell you how your legislator will vote ..not until the vote is actually cast.   Regardless, it won't take you long after calling a few Democrats and a few Republicans ...to figure out how you'll vote in 2010 and 2012!!!

Do it for legislation like this 'ram-it-down' the public's throat so-called "health bill."   Do the same for 2nd Amendment issues and for Life.  The Constitution isn't a worthless piece of toilet paper, regardless of how Congress and the WH treats it.

I've been posting most of the emails that I receive lately, here on my blog, at http://harrolds.blogspot.com  ...admittedly, most are not pro-o'who? or are about his socialist legislative agenda.  Note, however, that of the last 1000 emails - none, I repeat, none were supportive of o'who?'s policies with the rare exception of an occasional "moveon.org" other "paid for" emails from the 'coalition' that is behind the o'bamanation.  Still, I support our government and the Office of the President of the United States and my 2010/2012 votes will reflect my support for Traditional American Values, Life, the 2nd Amendment and, importantly,  the Constitution of the United States.

~~~ Robert Harrold, El Centro, Ca.

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From: jjcammarano To: sdrra@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009

Subject: [sdrra] FULL ALERT FEDERAL - Healthcare Bill Could Ban Guns

Folks,

From GOA. Yes, hammer the CA senators too. If we don't we will just be perfect victims.

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Thank You!  Jim - San Diego Rifle and Revolver Association

ObamaCare Could be Used to Ban Guns in Home Self-Defense
-- Important vote to occur on Tuesday

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://gunowners.org/

Friday, October 9, 2009

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus has something to say to gun owners: "Own a gun; lose your coverage!"

 Baucus' socialized health care bill comes up for a Finance Committee vote on Tuesday. We have waited and waited and waited for the shifty Baucus to release legislative language. But he has refused to release anything but a summary -- and we will never have a Congressional Budget Office cost assessment based on actual legislation. Even the summary was kept secret for a long time.

But, on the basis of the summary, the Baucus bill (which is still unnumbered) tells us virtually nothing about what kind of policy Americans will be required to purchase under penalty of law -- nor the consequences. It simply says:

* "all U.S. citizens and legal residents would be required to purchase coverage through (1) the individual market...";

* "individuals would be required to report on their federal income tax return the months for which they maintain the required minimum health coverage...";


* in addition to an extensive list of statutorily mandated coverage, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius would be empowered to "define and update the categories of treatments, items, and services..." within an insurance plan which would be covered in a policy constituting "required minimum health coverage."

ObamaCare and gun control

It is nearly certain that coverage prescribed by the administration will, to control costs, exclude coverage for what it regards as excessively dangerous activities. And, given Sebelius' well-established antipathy to the Second Amendment -- she vetoed concealed carry legislation as governor of Kansas -- we presume she will define these dangerous activities to include hunting and self-defense using a firearm. It is even possible that the Obama-prescribed policy could preclude reimbursement of any kind in a household which keeps a loaded firearm for self-defense.

The ObamaCare bill already contains language that will punish Americans who engage in unhealthy behavior by allowing insurers to charge them higher insurance premiums. (What constitutes an unhealthy lifestyle is, of course, to be defined by legislators.

Don't be surprised if an anti-gun nut like Sebelius uses this line of thinking to impose ObamaCare policies which result in a back-door gun ban on any American who owns "dangerous" firearms.


After all, insurers already (and routinely) drop homeowners from their policies for owning certain types of guns or for refusing to use trigger locks (that is, for keeping their guns ready for self-defense!  While not all insurers practice this anti-gun behavior, Gun Owners of America has documented that some do -- Prudential and State Farm being two of the most well-known.
The good news is that because homeowner insurance is private (and is still subject to the free market) you can go to another company if one drops you. But what are you going to do under nationalized ObamaCare when the regulations written by Secretary Sebelius suspend the applicability of your government-mandated policy because of your gun ownership?

All of this is in addition to something that GOA has been warning you about for several months ... the certainty that minimum acceptable policies will dump your gun information into a federal database ... a certainty that is reinforced by language in the summary providing for a study to "encourage increased meaningful use of electronic health records."

Remember, the federal government has already denied more than 150,000 military veterans the right to own guns, without their being convicted of a crime or receiving any due process of law. They were denied because of medical information (such as PTSD) that the FBI later determined disqualified these veterans to own guns.

Is this what we need on a national level being applied to every gun owner in America?

Incidentally, failure to comply would subject the average family to $1,500 up to $3800 in fines  -- and possibly more for a household with older teens.   And, although a Schumer amendment purports to exempt Americans from prison sentences for non-purchase of an ObamaPolicy -- something which was never at issue -- it doesn't prohibit them from being sent to prison for a year and fined an additional $25,000 under the Internal Revenue Code for non-payment of the initial fines.


ACTION: Contact your two U.S. Senators. Ask him or her, in the strongest terms, to vote against the phony Baucus bill.

You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

----- A Pre-written letter for you -----

Dear Senator:

You already know that the phony Baucus bill:

* Is predicated on $283 billion in phony "cuts" which have never, never ever been realized since a similar commitment to cut Medicare costs in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 -- and will never, never ever be realized under the Baucus bill;

* Requires massive numbers of Americans to have government-approved insurance which the CBO predicts will be more expensive than current policies;

* Refuses to provide a cost for these policies, making it almost certain that more and more Americans will find insurance beyond their reach;

* Has no legislative language and nothing but a CBO "guesstimate" of the cost and benefits, based on a summary.

On the basis of the summary, the Baucus bill tells us virtually nothing about what kind of policy Americans will be required to purchase under penalty of law -- nor the consequences. It does say that the "Secretary of HHS [Kathleen Sebelius] would be required to define and update the categories of treatments, items, and services..." within an insurance plan which would be covered in a policy constituting "required minimum health coverage."

This could spell trouble for gun owners.

It is nearly certain that coverage prescribed by the administration will, to control costs, exclude coverage for what it regards as excessively dangerous activities. And, given Sebelius' well-established antipathy to the Second Amendment -- she vetoed concealed carry legislation as governor of Kansas -- I presume she will define these dangerous activities to include hunting and self-defense using a firearm. It is even possible that the Obama-prescribed policy could preclude reimbursement of any kind in a household which keeps a loaded firearm for self-defense.

This is, of course, in addition to the certainty that minimum acceptable policies will dump my gun information into a federal database -- a certainty that is reinforced by language in the summary providing for a study to "encourage increased meaningful use of electronic health records."

Incidentally, failure to comply would subject the average family to $1,500 in fines -- and possibly more for a household with older teens. And, although a Schumer amendment purports to exempt Americans from prison sentences for non-purchase of an ObamaPolicy -- something which was never at issue -- it doesn't prohibit them from being sent to prison for a year and fined an additional $25,000 under the Internal Revenue Code for non-payment of the initial fines.

Please oppose the Baucus bill. 
Sincerely, 

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